Joe Columbus 07-08-07
Gina's "response" and some rebuttals EDIT: SEE BOTTOM OF POST
Below you'll find an email that Gina sent out after her fraud was exposed along with my rebuttals and those of Gina's now ex friend Misty. Mine will be first and they are numbered after her comments.
OK...first off this email is being sent to EVERYONE that I have saved in my "friends folder"....so if your not involved in thsi or whatever...jsut ignore it.
Hi, this is Gina...Bill is posting this for me. I opened my email for the first time today and was floored to see all the crap being dished out about me, Bill and whoever else is associated with me.
First off, let me thank those that sent their well wishes and meant it...it was appreciated.
Secondly: to address this letter from Misty (whom I just spoke to on the phone). It should NOT have been assumed that because Bill spoke with her that she was "in the know" about this stuff. Bill let her know what he was told to let everyone know. So, if you trashed her...apologize to her.
1. Umm the emails specifically said that Bill was talking to "your good friend" Misty. We were very much led to believe she was "in the know" to make your lies more believable. also you state that this is the first time you'd opened your email, however in an email to another friend, the night before this, Bill stated that you'd already seen it. Which is it Gina?
Now to address what she wrote...
Calling the hospitals in my home town was pretty much pointless (and I'll tell you the REASONS why). First off, the accident that I had happened up north where I was visiting my brother...not down here.
2. The original email from Bill said you had gone to the store to pick up a few things, which is it Gina? Also in the original email, bill said he was at the hospital less than an hour after your accident so it couldn't have been too far up north now could it?
Secondly, when I or Bill go to the hospital (and I believe most hospitals do this...and if they don't...they should since it's a FEDERAL LAW), we always put on the form that we do NOT want anyone to know we are there unless they are IMMEDIATE FAMILY...meaning, if anyone who is NOT family was to call the hospital the hospital will say that they have no record of them. This IS part of the HIPPA laws that were put into action a while back...so anyone who would call who was not immediate family will NOT be informed anything about me...up to and including whether or not I'm even there. So, lets lay that part to rest shall we?
3. Point for you I guess.
Third: Misty said she tried calling relatives but found it "odd" that she couldn't get a hold of them. Why is that odd? She doesn't even know who to look for in any type of search....besides last names. So, that's laid to rest.
4. She cared enough to try, so shut up.
Forth: Newspapers and news stations around where I live will not have any stories on it because it didn't happen down there. That's laid to rest...
5. That's not true. In a small community like yours, if someone had been seriously injured in an accident, I'm sure they would have covered it. Case in point, my husband was in a serious accident in his semi, here in the Columbus area. Our local paper, 100 miles away, carried the story even though we didn't even live there any more.
Fifth: She sent a cop car to my home (out of concern...which was nice). According to Bill (who I just spoke with) the officer asked if I lived there...my sister Brenda was here and she and Bill said yes she does. Bill said that he asked Brenda if she was me, she said no, but that I was doing better. Bill and Brenda also said that they would call Misty and let her know what was up... Bill then called her. This is all according to him...which I believe him. So, that lays to rest the notion that I was home.
6. In a situation like that, the police would have asked to see an ID I'm sure. Misty herself addresses this much better in her comments in the next section.
Sixth: Misty was upset that Bill didn't contact her directly or tell her what hospital I was in. Bill and I have an agreement that if anything happens to us only IMMEDIATE FAMILY are to be notified...directly and what he did by emailing you guys to let you know how I was was him being nice enough to do that for me....since he thought you guys were friends of mine. That's laid to rest.
7. You're lying in the ER, possibly dying and he's nice enough to email total strangers to let them know? Seems really odd to me.
Seventh: Bill had gotten several emails before posting those pictures of the car (which I just saw by the way), from people telling him they "wanted proof that I was hurt...either through pictures of ME in the hospital (how sick is that?), police reports (not gonna happen), or something to that effect. Bill was LIVID and felt that people were being pushy and nosey about all of this so he posted some pictures that he found on the net just to shut people up. These are his words... so, if your going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the people that emailed hateful emails to him just because he wouldn't tell everyone where I was at and so on. That puts the mysterious pictures to rest now.
8. Okay that really makes no sense. You're in the hospital but he's going to take the time to hunt pictures on the internet to appease your friends, people he doesn't even know?
Eight: Why anyone would ASSUME the worst about me and what was being told to them because some people decided to play Nancy Drew and NOT ask me directly before slamming the hell out of me is infuriating to me! I thought many of you guys were friends...and I should NOT have to come onto my email here in the hospital and explain anything to you guys like this. A true friend would take what their friend (or their friends spouse) is telling them and if they had questions about it's validity would either try to contact that person or wait for them to get the opportunity to contact them before throwing them to the wolves. I've got 257 emails of people (who were friends before the Nancy Drews stepped up to bat) telling me to f*** off and calling me everything but white....well 427 now. Some of these people are even going as far as to call my husbands place of employment and try to get him fired or calling the police on him and shit. I'm so pissed right now I'm sick to my stomach. NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE should ever have to come onto their computer and read all these hateful crappy emails like this...and for what??? Because there's a handful of hateful bitches out there who can't stand me...and I could name names but I wont' stoop as low as them....and who want to do nothing more than to see me burn at a stake in some distant field.
9. We assume the worst because you've given us many many reasons to.
Ninth: Misty asked me how I signed into MySpace....I didn't. Bill has my password and was asked to check on things for me...he said he would and that's why he did that.
10. Wow again, how thoughtful of him to check on messages from complete strangers to him, while you're hurt in the hospital.
Tenth: My mother passed away last fall. I don't care if ANY of you believe that or not...but she did. My other mom...Bill's step mom passed away a while ago...hence the 2 moms dying thing. If your going to throw shit out there make sure you got the information and accusations right first.
11. point number 2 for you.
Eleventh: Chrissy mentioned that I would never be able to go to a Def Leppard show again....is that a threat of some sort?? Why would I not go to anymore Lep concerts? If I go and I see some of you there...you go your way, I'll go mine. And telling me to drop out of the DL community... don't worry...I will as of now.
12. Not a threat. Just making the point that if you're actually stupid enough to go to another show, anyone from the online community who knows about this little stunt will make sure you're made a laughing stock. Also you say you're dropping out of the DL community but yet there you are, still posting on several groups, looking for sympathy.
People assumed that this was a prank (even before finding out from me...they just took the first negative bone thrown to them and ran with it). Let me tell you something about my husband...he may be a jerk at times (and yes, we were separated... talked divorce...but we were never divorced) but he's got WAY more important things to do with his spare time than to come onto some stupid internet groups and make up some bogus story about me. He will protect me in any way he sees fit...even if it means lying about where I am at. He will do anything for me...and ladies and gents...THAT IS A TRUE FRIEND. Then, not only that...he actually called (who I thought was) a best friend to tell her I was doing better. He told her I was resting comfortably in Lapeer Hospital because he didn't know her and he didn't know if it was ok to tell where I was at.
Lets also not forget that the people that trashed me...which was pretty much everyone on here...many of you had NO REASON to do that. I'd never done one bad thing to anyone on these groups. Oh, and lets not forget about whoever it was bringing up the April Fools joke....good god...that was 3 years ago, let it go people. And it certainly wasn't something that was worth rehashing because of this. I've got people saying..."she seemed so nice but NOW"...and stuff like that....well I AM nice. I haven't done anything wrong with this whole thing. Bill tried to protect me (because he knew that there were people in these groups that didn't like me)...so he lied about where I was... and he posted car pics that weren't mine...big friggin' deal people.
13. Again, you've lied and pulled enough stunts that people are suspicious immediately. The April Fool's prank has little to do with that. It's just another point in a pattern of behavior.
Now lets talk about the car accident itself... Misty (and others said that they couldn't understand how someone who is so close to death can survive)...first off lets get some facts right here. When Bill initially posted I believe it said that I was in MRI getting scans done to see how I was. The second post was about what was found. My back is not broken...I've got 2 slipped discs. I've got a bad concussion (hence the unconsciousness and swelling), I've got a broken leg (which had 2 pins put into it to stabilize the bone), I've got a fractured hand (6 bones total), broken collar bone and I've got about a 2 inch scar on my side (just under my ribs where they went in to repair a torn artery). All bad injuries, but luckily none that killed me...much to many people's dismay on here. I have headaches now...which I'll probably have for a long time...and I hurt like hell...which will always be there.
14. I seriously doubt that a doctor, a professional, would have given Bill a list of injuries that wasn't confirmed, unless of course said doctor wanted to be sued.
I WILL be released on Thursday if anyone wants to email me to find out if I'm still alive. I WILL NOT accept phone calls because to be honest...I just don't know who my friends are anymore...and also with the way you guys have acted to me... I don't want to hear from any of you unless you want to discuss this like adults. If your plans when emailing me is to bash the piss out of me...don't bother. I'll just block your email and I WILL tell you to piss off.
People have left the groups because of this (and kicked me out of others)...fine, adios to ya. All I can do is tell you what is going on, you will either believe me or you won't. I've had some time to think while reading through all of these emails and I've decided that I'm done with all of it. I'm leaving and closing all of my groups...simply because I don't care to see the threats and so on headed my way anymore. Not only that... with friends that don't give a shit enough to WAIT and see what I have to say instead of just jumping on the band wagon... I just don't have time for that anymore. Your not really friends apparently.. .so who's been duped here really...sure as hell not you guys. Many of you have never met me...yet you decide that I'm some friggin' monster...and why?? Because your playing follow the leader and jumping on the bandwagon... sorry, but that's exactly what's going on here. Even now, I'm reading all of these emails and people are saying...even NOW...I'm sorry that this was a hoax that Gina put on and so on....give me time to answer for god sakes!
15. I have met you and tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Didn't take me long to realize you were indeed a bullshitter.
Lastly...many of you hate my guts right now... so be it. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me...but, I can't change that. All I can do is tell you what happened. Here's a concept too to investigate. ..have any of you (who claimed to be friends and so on) asked yourselves WHY these people were doing all this Nancy Drew shit in the first place?? They're malicious people...not me....you can believe me or not. It's up to you.
16. We aren't malicious. We wanted the truth out there so t hat innocent people weren't scammed by you.
I'm closing my group and leaving all the other Lep groups (and no Miss smart ass~ gypsygirl1999 I won't be posting under another name...I'm fed up and done with all of it). If I learned anything from this accident...it' s shown me WHO is most important in my life....my family. Apparently I can't say that about anyone else...so do what you must.
I'm done...
Gina
17. You lie yet again. You didn't close your group, you unsubbed everyone but yourself and are slowly letting those back in who still have the wool pulled over there eyes. On one of the other groups you posted that you'd closed it and then decided to reopen it, also a lie. If you'd done that, all those old messages would have been lost and they're not. You also haven't left all the other groups because thee are at least 2 that you're still posting on, trying to sell your lies.
Now for Misty's version:
Ok, I have to say, I was just going to pass on this e-mail. But the more I read
it and the more I thought about it, the more I got really pissed off. Now I realize
none of you know me, and I am not about to get into a pissing match, but there
are some inconsistencies. And I will put my responses after Gina's. Mine will
be in blue bold. And yes, Gina did call me tonight. I left a voice mail on her
cell phone and her home phone. Although, I really didn't have much hope for
her cell phone.....seems like it would've been trashed. But oh well, what do
I know. I'm just a malicious Nancy Drew girl.
Gina wrote:
OK...first off this email is being sent to EVERYONE that I have saved in my "friends folder"....so if your not involved in thsi or whatever...jsut ignore it.
Hi, this is Gina...Bill is posting this for me. I opened my email for the first time today and was floored to see all the crap being dished out about me, Bill and whoever else is associated with me.
First off, let me thank those that sent their well wishes and meant it...it was appreciated. You all read my e-mail and the things I did and went through
to make sure she was ok. So even though I didn't e-mail, I was on the damn
phone.
Secondly: to address this letter from Misty (whom I just spoke to on the phone). It should NOT have been assumed that because Bill spoke with her that she was "in the know" about this stuff. Bill let her know what he was told to let everyone know. So, if you trashed her...apologize to her. No need to apologize to me, I could
see how you would think that.
Now to address what she wrote...
Calling the hospitals in my home town was pretty much pointless (and I'll tell you the REASONS why). First off, the accident that I had happened up north where I was visiting my brother...not down here. Secondly, when I or Bill go to the hospital (and I believe most hospitals do this...and if they don't...they should since it's a FEDERAL LAW), we always put on the form that we do NOT want anyone to know we are there unless they are IMMEDIATE FAMILY...meaning, if anyone who is NOT family was to call the hospital the hospital will say that they have no record of them. This IS part of the HIPPA laws that were put into action a while back...so anyone who would call who was not immediate family will NOT be informed anything about me...up to and including whether or not I'm even there. So, lets lay that part to rest shall we? Really can't lay this one to rest. I can call any
hospital and see if someone is there. And they will tell you, unless #1,
you are in the psychiatric ward or the rehab for drugs and alcohol or #2
you want to be anonymous.
Third: Misty said she tried calling relatives but found it "odd" that she couldn't get a hold of them. Why is that odd? She doesn't even know who to look for in any type of search....besides last names. So, that's laid to rest. Ok, can't lay this one
to rest either. I didn't say I found it "odd". What I said was, I was on the
internet, all weekend, yesterday and today, along with calling information
trying to find her relatives. But I couldn't find them to call them. Actually,
I found her family, by looking up Gina's name and saw her families names
located there and just started looking from there.
Forth: Newspapers and news stations around where I live will not have any stories on it because it didn't happen down there. That's laid to rest...
Fifth: She sent a cop car to my home (out of concern...which was nice). According to Bill (who I just spoke with) the officer asked if I lived there...my sister Brenda was here and she and Bill said yes she does. Bill said that he asked Brenda if she was me, she said no, but that I was doing better. Bill and Brenda also said that they would call Misty and let her know what was up... Bill then called her. This is all according to him...which I believe him. So, that lays to rest the notion that I was home. Ok, this is not how this happened or what I said to Gina on the phone. This is the way it happened. I left a voice mail for Bill to call me,
so he had my number and he returned my call. He told me that Gina woke up that morning and that she would be discharged within 2-3 days, and I clarified with him that her brain still wasn't right and he agreed. But they were going to discharge her 2-3 days. I did find that "odd". Anywho, he called me at 12:07 pm Sunday. If you call the police dept. they will tell you my call into them was AFTER the call he made to me. He is telling Gina that he & Brenda called me after the police left. That is WRONG!! By hours, its wrong. When I called the police today, they had to call me back so she could look up the case. She read it to me and the cops TALKED TO GINA. And Gina told them, I'll call Misty. The cop I talked to today, I told her about the accident and the severity of the injuries and she laughingly told me, "Well, it wasn't the Gina XXXX at the residence we went to."
Sixth: Misty was upset that Bill didn't contact her directly or tell her what hospital I was in. Bill and I have an agreement that if anything happens to us only IMMEDIATE FAMILY are to be notified...directly and what he did by emailing you guys to let you know how I was was him being nice enough to do that for me....since he thought you guys were friends of mine. That's laid to rest.
Ok, I have a problem with this one. Yes, I was upset. I am supposed to be her best friend. But they can't tell me? I mean, Gina told him to call me, which he did, so he knew who he was talking to. Gina's reasoning for not having Bill tell me, is he didn't know who he was talking to. Did he forget that quick who he called?? Then I ask her why he he has laptop at the hospital. Cuz my reasoning is, if my hubby is in the hospital, my laptop is the last thing on my list. But, ok, they have the agreement, that they will notify there friends immediately. Thats what she told me. But then she says he has the laptop, becuz the only way he can think of to contact anybody is thru her e-mail. "Odd" that none of her family was on her e-mail. And its also "odd" that doesn't know any of the families phone numbers. Those are her words to me, not mine. Back to telling me, I think I was a good enough friend, to tell in confidentiality, at least the city. Which by the way, she never did. "Odd" that she has this agreement to notify all of her online friends (who mostly she has never met), and she respects us enough to have him do that, but not tell us where she's at. I'm sure we all would've respected her decision. I know that I would've. Another "odd" thing is if they have this agreement, then why isn't her family on her e-mail? Especially if Bill doesn't know the phone numbers.
Seventh: Bill had gotten several emails before posting those pictures of the car (which I just saw by the way), from people telling him they "wanted proof that I was hurt...either through pictures of ME in the hospital (how sick is that?), police reports (not gonna happen), or something to that effect. Bill was LIVID and felt that people were being pushy and nosey about all of this so he posted some pictures that he found on the net just to shut people up. These are his words... so, if your going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the people that emailed hateful emails to him just because he wouldn't tell everyone where I was at and so on. That puts the mysterious pictures to rest now. Sick sick joke. Especially how the story in the picture is so much like Gina and Bill's story. I'm sorry, but I don't care how pissed off you may get at a handful of people, you don't fuck with the ones that you "care" so much about, that while you are in a come, you have your hubby e-mail us all.
Eight: Why anyone would ASSUME the worst about me and what was being told to them because some people decided to play Nancy Drew and NOT ask me directly before slamming the hell out of me is infuriating to me! I thought many of you guys were friends...and I should NOT have to come onto my email here in the hospital and explain anything to you guys like this. A true friend would take what their friend (or their friends spouse) is telling them and if they had questions about it's validity would either try to contact that person or wait for them to get the opportunity to contact them before throwing them to the wolves. I've got 257 emails of people (who were friends before the Nancy Drews stepped up to bat) telling me to f*** off and calling me everything but white....well 427 now. Some of these people are even going as far as to call my husbands place of employment and try to get him fired or calling the police on him and shit. I'm so pissed right now I'm sick to my stomach. NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE should ever have to come onto their computer and read all these hateful crappy emails like this...and for what??? Because there's a handful of hateful bitches out there who can't stand me...and I could name names but I wont' stoop as low as them....and who want to do nothing more than to see me burn at a stake in some distant field.
Ninth: Misty asked me how I signed into MySpace....I didn't. Bill has my password and was asked to check on things for me...he said he would and that's why he did that. You told me that Bill was checking your messages for you. I don't know about you guys, but if I was as fucked up as you guys say you are, the computer would be the last thing on my mind. And if you are as damaged as you say you are, you would think that you would be on some major drugs. After talking to you today, you having all of the injuries that you do, you sure didn't "sound" in pain or on drugs.
Tenth: My mother passed away last fall. I don't care if ANY of you believe that or not...but she did. My other mom...Bill's step mom passed away a while ago...hence the 2 moms dying thing. If your going to throw shit out there make sure you got the information and accusations right first.
Eleventh: Chrissy mentioned that I would never be able to go to a Def Leppard show again....is that a threat of some sort?? Why would I not go to anymore Lep concerts? If I go and I see some of you there...you go your way, I'll go mine. And telling me to drop out of the DL community... don't worry...I will as of now. Yes, she has unsubscribed to my Pampered Chef website. So if any of you would like to add on now, you can do so. Just let me know.
People assumed that this was a prank (even before finding out from me...they just took the first negative bone thrown to them and ran with it). Let me tell you something about my husband...he may be a jerk at times (and yes, we were separated...talked divorce...but we were never divorced) but he's got WAY more important things to do with his spare time than to come onto some stupid internet groups and make up some bogus story about me. He will protect me in any way he sees fit...even if it means lying about where I am at. He will do anything for me...and ladies and gents...THAT IS A TRUE FRIEND. Then, not only that...he actually called (who I thought was) a best friend to tell her I was doing better. He told her I was resting comfortably in Lapeer Hospital because he didn't know her and he didn't know if it was ok to tell where I was at. See answer to #6, I don't feel like repeating myself. Although, I must say, that yes, I was Nancy Drew, becuz I cared. I was trying to make sure she was ok. I don't know Bill from Adam, know what I mean?? After the problems that she was having with him, God only know what could've happened. So if that makes me a bad person, or a Nancy Drew, or none of you would like to have that sort of person in your life, that sort of person who cares, then just let me know and I won't care about you anymore either.
Lets also not forget that the people that trashed me...which was pretty much everyone on here...many of you had NO REASON to do that. I'd never done one bad thing to anyone on these groups. Oh, and lets not forget about whoever it was bringing up the April Fools joke....good god...that was 3 years ago, let it go people. And it certainly wasn't something that was worth rehashing because of this. I've got people saying..."she seemed so nice but NOW"...and stuff like that....well I AM nice. I haven't done anything wrong with this whole thing. Bill tried to protect me (because he knew that there were people in these groups that didn't like me)...so he lied about where I was... and he posted car pics that weren't mine...big friggin' deal people. I asked Gina, put yourself in our shoes, see it the way we see it. And I told her how we all saw it, piece by piece and she told me that she could understand where I was coming from. Protect you? There was no reason to not tell us the city or the hospital, especially if you put yourself down as anonymous.
Now lets talk about the car accident itself... Misty (and others said that they couldn't understand how someone who is so close to death can survive)...first off lets get some facts right here. When Bill initially posted I believe it said that I was in MRI getting scans done to see how I was. The second post was about what was found. My back is not broken...I've got 2 slipped discs. I've got a bad concussion (hence the unconsciousness and swelling), I've got a broken leg (which had 2 pins put into it to stabilize the bone), I've got a fractured hand (6 bones total), broken collar bone and I've got about a 2 inch scar on my side (just under my ribs where they went in to repair a torn artery). All bad injuries, but luckily none that killed me...much to many people's dismay on here. I have headaches now...which I'll probably have for a long time...and I hurt like hell...which will always be there.
I didn't say I didn't understand how someone so close to death could survive. My exact words were, I can't understand how someone could be so close to death, broken back, fractured skull, broken legs and arms, in a coma, breathing tube and be released within 2-3 days, as that is what Bill told me. She told me that her back wasn't broken, just slipped discs, and that people go home everyday with broken arms and legs.
I WILL be released on Thursday if anyone wants to email me to find out if I'm still alive. I WILL NOT accept phone calls because to be honest...I just don't know who my friends are anymore...and also with the way you guys have acted to me... I don't want to hear from any of you unless you want to discuss this like adults. If your plans when emailing me is to bash the piss out of me...don't bother. I'll just block your email and I WILL tell you to piss off.
People have left the groups because of this (and kicked me out of others)...fine, adios to ya. I didn't kick you out of mine - why did you leave???All I can do is tell you what is going on, you will either believe me or you won't. I've had some time to think while reading through all of these emails and I've decided that I'm done with all of it. I'm leaving and closing all of my groups...simply because I don't care to see the threats and so on headed my way anymore. Not only that... with friends that don't give a shit enough to WAIT and see what I have to say instead of just jumping on the band wagon... I just don't have time for that anymore. Your not really friends apparently...so who's been duped here really...sure as hell not you guys. Many of you have never met me...yet you decide that I'm some friggin' monster...and why?? Because your playing follow the leader and jumping on the bandwagon...sorry, but that's exactly what's going on here. Even now, I'm reading all of these emails and people are saying...even NOW...I'm sorry that this was a hoax that Gina put on and so on....give me time to answer for god sakes!
Lastly...many of you hate my guts right now... so be it. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me...but, I can't change that. All I can do is tell you what happened. Here's a concept too to investigate...have any of you (who claimed to be friends and so on) asked yourselves WHY these people were doing all this Nancy Drew shit in the first place?? They're malicious people...not me....you can believe me or not. It's up to you. I don't hate you, I never said I did. I said I was hurt. I am not a malicious Nancy Drew. But if thats what I am becuz I cared and TRIED to find out if you were ok, then sobeit!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm closing my group and leaving all the other Lep groups (and no Miss smart ass~ gypsygirl1999 I won't be posting under another name...I'm fed up and done with all of it). If I learned anything from this accident...it's shown me WHO is most important in my life....my family. Apparently I can't say that about anyone else...so do what you must.
I'm done...
Gina
EDIT:
EDIT:
I totally forgot about this response to another email:
Who died and made you guys queens of the DL Community? I didn't lie Deb...and neither did Bill. And don't you dare insult him like you did on that group...Bill did NOTHING to any of you but what I ask him to do. So if your mad at anyone...be mad at me. Though...you have no reason to be as I didn't lie.
I think you guys made up your minds about me long before any of this happened anyway. You guys have this "proof"...good grief. Proof of what?? An email from a girl claiming to be best friends with me that I just met last fall and hardly spoke to?? Bill had no idea who she was...that's how good of a friend she was. So...I guess your done with Jeanne...now it's my turn.
Whatever...if they want me to leave any groups I will...no problem. But you telling me to isn't going to cut it.
Gina
A girl claiming to be your best friend? That you hardly spoke to? Geez Gina, that's not what you said in the earlier emails. Make up your frigging mind.
OK...first off this email is being sent to EVERYONE that I have saved in my "friends folder"....so if your not involved in thsi or whatever...jsut ignore it.
Hi, this is Gina...Bill is posting this for me. I opened my email for the first time today and was floored to see all the crap being dished out about me, Bill and whoever else is associated with me.
First off, let me thank those that sent their well wishes and meant it...it was appreciated.
Secondly: to address this letter from Misty (whom I just spoke to on the phone). It should NOT have been assumed that because Bill spoke with her that she was "in the know" about this stuff. Bill let her know what he was told to let everyone know. So, if you trashed her...apologize to her.
1. Umm the emails specifically said that Bill was talking to "your good friend" Misty. We were very much led to believe she was "in the know" to make your lies more believable. also you state that this is the first time you'd opened your email, however in an email to another friend, the night before this, Bill stated that you'd already seen it. Which is it Gina?
Now to address what she wrote...
Calling the hospitals in my home town was pretty much pointless (and I'll tell you the REASONS why). First off, the accident that I had happened up north where I was visiting my brother...not down here.
2. The original email from Bill said you had gone to the store to pick up a few things, which is it Gina? Also in the original email, bill said he was at the hospital less than an hour after your accident so it couldn't have been too far up north now could it?
Secondly, when I or Bill go to the hospital (and I believe most hospitals do this...and if they don't...they should since it's a FEDERAL LAW), we always put on the form that we do NOT want anyone to know we are there unless they are IMMEDIATE FAMILY...meaning, if anyone who is NOT family was to call the hospital the hospital will say that they have no record of them. This IS part of the HIPPA laws that were put into action a while back...so anyone who would call who was not immediate family will NOT be informed anything about me...up to and including whether or not I'm even there. So, lets lay that part to rest shall we?
3. Point for you I guess.
Third: Misty said she tried calling relatives but found it "odd" that she couldn't get a hold of them. Why is that odd? She doesn't even know who to look for in any type of search....besides last names. So, that's laid to rest.
4. She cared enough to try, so shut up.
Forth: Newspapers and news stations around where I live will not have any stories on it because it didn't happen down there. That's laid to rest...
5. That's not true. In a small community like yours, if someone had been seriously injured in an accident, I'm sure they would have covered it. Case in point, my husband was in a serious accident in his semi, here in the Columbus area. Our local paper, 100 miles away, carried the story even though we didn't even live there any more.
Fifth: She sent a cop car to my home (out of concern...which was nice). According to Bill (who I just spoke with) the officer asked if I lived there...my sister Brenda was here and she and Bill said yes she does. Bill said that he asked Brenda if she was me, she said no, but that I was doing better. Bill and Brenda also said that they would call Misty and let her know what was up... Bill then called her. This is all according to him...which I believe him. So, that lays to rest the notion that I was home.
6. In a situation like that, the police would have asked to see an ID I'm sure. Misty herself addresses this much better in her comments in the next section.
Sixth: Misty was upset that Bill didn't contact her directly or tell her what hospital I was in. Bill and I have an agreement that if anything happens to us only IMMEDIATE FAMILY are to be notified...directly and what he did by emailing you guys to let you know how I was was him being nice enough to do that for me....since he thought you guys were friends of mine. That's laid to rest.
7. You're lying in the ER, possibly dying and he's nice enough to email total strangers to let them know? Seems really odd to me.
Seventh: Bill had gotten several emails before posting those pictures of the car (which I just saw by the way), from people telling him they "wanted proof that I was hurt...either through pictures of ME in the hospital (how sick is that?), police reports (not gonna happen), or something to that effect. Bill was LIVID and felt that people were being pushy and nosey about all of this so he posted some pictures that he found on the net just to shut people up. These are his words... so, if your going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the people that emailed hateful emails to him just because he wouldn't tell everyone where I was at and so on. That puts the mysterious pictures to rest now.
8. Okay that really makes no sense. You're in the hospital but he's going to take the time to hunt pictures on the internet to appease your friends, people he doesn't even know?
Eight: Why anyone would ASSUME the worst about me and what was being told to them because some people decided to play Nancy Drew and NOT ask me directly before slamming the hell out of me is infuriating to me! I thought many of you guys were friends...and I should NOT have to come onto my email here in the hospital and explain anything to you guys like this. A true friend would take what their friend (or their friends spouse) is telling them and if they had questions about it's validity would either try to contact that person or wait for them to get the opportunity to contact them before throwing them to the wolves. I've got 257 emails of people (who were friends before the Nancy Drews stepped up to bat) telling me to f*** off and calling me everything but white....well 427 now. Some of these people are even going as far as to call my husbands place of employment and try to get him fired or calling the police on him and shit. I'm so pissed right now I'm sick to my stomach. NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE should ever have to come onto their computer and read all these hateful crappy emails like this...and for what??? Because there's a handful of hateful bitches out there who can't stand me...and I could name names but I wont' stoop as low as them....and who want to do nothing more than to see me burn at a stake in some distant field.
9. We assume the worst because you've given us many many reasons to.
Ninth: Misty asked me how I signed into MySpace....I didn't. Bill has my password and was asked to check on things for me...he said he would and that's why he did that.
10. Wow again, how thoughtful of him to check on messages from complete strangers to him, while you're hurt in the hospital.
Tenth: My mother passed away last fall. I don't care if ANY of you believe that or not...but she did. My other mom...Bill's step mom passed away a while ago...hence the 2 moms dying thing. If your going to throw shit out there make sure you got the information and accusations right first.
11. point number 2 for you.
Eleventh: Chrissy mentioned that I would never be able to go to a Def Leppard show again....is that a threat of some sort?? Why would I not go to anymore Lep concerts? If I go and I see some of you there...you go your way, I'll go mine. And telling me to drop out of the DL community... don't worry...I will as of now.
12. Not a threat. Just making the point that if you're actually stupid enough to go to another show, anyone from the online community who knows about this little stunt will make sure you're made a laughing stock. Also you say you're dropping out of the DL community but yet there you are, still posting on several groups, looking for sympathy.
People assumed that this was a prank (even before finding out from me...they just took the first negative bone thrown to them and ran with it). Let me tell you something about my husband...he may be a jerk at times (and yes, we were separated... talked divorce...but we were never divorced) but he's got WAY more important things to do with his spare time than to come onto some stupid internet groups and make up some bogus story about me. He will protect me in any way he sees fit...even if it means lying about where I am at. He will do anything for me...and ladies and gents...THAT IS A TRUE FRIEND. Then, not only that...he actually called (who I thought was) a best friend to tell her I was doing better. He told her I was resting comfortably in Lapeer Hospital because he didn't know her and he didn't know if it was ok to tell where I was at.
Lets also not forget that the people that trashed me...which was pretty much everyone on here...many of you had NO REASON to do that. I'd never done one bad thing to anyone on these groups. Oh, and lets not forget about whoever it was bringing up the April Fools joke....good god...that was 3 years ago, let it go people. And it certainly wasn't something that was worth rehashing because of this. I've got people saying..."she seemed so nice but NOW"...and stuff like that....well I AM nice. I haven't done anything wrong with this whole thing. Bill tried to protect me (because he knew that there were people in these groups that didn't like me)...so he lied about where I was... and he posted car pics that weren't mine...big friggin' deal people.
13. Again, you've lied and pulled enough stunts that people are suspicious immediately. The April Fool's prank has little to do with that. It's just another point in a pattern of behavior.
Now lets talk about the car accident itself... Misty (and others said that they couldn't understand how someone who is so close to death can survive)...first off lets get some facts right here. When Bill initially posted I believe it said that I was in MRI getting scans done to see how I was. The second post was about what was found. My back is not broken...I've got 2 slipped discs. I've got a bad concussion (hence the unconsciousness and swelling), I've got a broken leg (which had 2 pins put into it to stabilize the bone), I've got a fractured hand (6 bones total), broken collar bone and I've got about a 2 inch scar on my side (just under my ribs where they went in to repair a torn artery). All bad injuries, but luckily none that killed me...much to many people's dismay on here. I have headaches now...which I'll probably have for a long time...and I hurt like hell...which will always be there.
14. I seriously doubt that a doctor, a professional, would have given Bill a list of injuries that wasn't confirmed, unless of course said doctor wanted to be sued.
I WILL be released on Thursday if anyone wants to email me to find out if I'm still alive. I WILL NOT accept phone calls because to be honest...I just don't know who my friends are anymore...and also with the way you guys have acted to me... I don't want to hear from any of you unless you want to discuss this like adults. If your plans when emailing me is to bash the piss out of me...don't bother. I'll just block your email and I WILL tell you to piss off.
People have left the groups because of this (and kicked me out of others)...fine, adios to ya. All I can do is tell you what is going on, you will either believe me or you won't. I've had some time to think while reading through all of these emails and I've decided that I'm done with all of it. I'm leaving and closing all of my groups...simply because I don't care to see the threats and so on headed my way anymore. Not only that... with friends that don't give a shit enough to WAIT and see what I have to say instead of just jumping on the band wagon... I just don't have time for that anymore. Your not really friends apparently.. .so who's been duped here really...sure as hell not you guys. Many of you have never met me...yet you decide that I'm some friggin' monster...and why?? Because your playing follow the leader and jumping on the bandwagon... sorry, but that's exactly what's going on here. Even now, I'm reading all of these emails and people are saying...even NOW...I'm sorry that this was a hoax that Gina put on and so on....give me time to answer for god sakes!
15. I have met you and tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Didn't take me long to realize you were indeed a bullshitter.
Lastly...many of you hate my guts right now... so be it. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me...but, I can't change that. All I can do is tell you what happened. Here's a concept too to investigate. ..have any of you (who claimed to be friends and so on) asked yourselves WHY these people were doing all this Nancy Drew shit in the first place?? They're malicious people...not me....you can believe me or not. It's up to you.
16. We aren't malicious. We wanted the truth out there so t hat innocent people weren't scammed by you.
I'm closing my group and leaving all the other Lep groups (and no Miss smart ass~ gypsygirl1999 I won't be posting under another name...I'm fed up and done with all of it). If I learned anything from this accident...it' s shown me WHO is most important in my life....my family. Apparently I can't say that about anyone else...so do what you must.
I'm done...
Gina
17. You lie yet again. You didn't close your group, you unsubbed everyone but yourself and are slowly letting those back in who still have the wool pulled over there eyes. On one of the other groups you posted that you'd closed it and then decided to reopen it, also a lie. If you'd done that, all those old messages would have been lost and they're not. You also haven't left all the other groups because thee are at least 2 that you're still posting on, trying to sell your lies.
Now for Misty's version:
Ok, I have to say, I was just going to pass on this e-mail. But the more I read
it and the more I thought about it, the more I got really pissed off. Now I realize
none of you know me, and I am not about to get into a pissing match, but there
are some inconsistencies. And I will put my responses after Gina's. Mine will
be in blue bold. And yes, Gina did call me tonight. I left a voice mail on her
cell phone and her home phone. Although, I really didn't have much hope for
her cell phone.....seems like it would've been trashed. But oh well, what do
I know. I'm just a malicious Nancy Drew girl.
Gina wrote:
OK...first off this email is being sent to EVERYONE that I have saved in my "friends folder"....so if your not involved in thsi or whatever...jsut ignore it.
Hi, this is Gina...Bill is posting this for me. I opened my email for the first time today and was floored to see all the crap being dished out about me, Bill and whoever else is associated with me.
First off, let me thank those that sent their well wishes and meant it...it was appreciated. You all read my e-mail and the things I did and went through
to make sure she was ok. So even though I didn't e-mail, I was on the damn
phone.
Secondly: to address this letter from Misty (whom I just spoke to on the phone). It should NOT have been assumed that because Bill spoke with her that she was "in the know" about this stuff. Bill let her know what he was told to let everyone know. So, if you trashed her...apologize to her. No need to apologize to me, I could
see how you would think that.
Now to address what she wrote...
Calling the hospitals in my home town was pretty much pointless (and I'll tell you the REASONS why). First off, the accident that I had happened up north where I was visiting my brother...not down here. Secondly, when I or Bill go to the hospital (and I believe most hospitals do this...and if they don't...they should since it's a FEDERAL LAW), we always put on the form that we do NOT want anyone to know we are there unless they are IMMEDIATE FAMILY...meaning, if anyone who is NOT family was to call the hospital the hospital will say that they have no record of them. This IS part of the HIPPA laws that were put into action a while back...so anyone who would call who was not immediate family will NOT be informed anything about me...up to and including whether or not I'm even there. So, lets lay that part to rest shall we? Really can't lay this one to rest. I can call any
hospital and see if someone is there. And they will tell you, unless #1,
you are in the psychiatric ward or the rehab for drugs and alcohol or #2
you want to be anonymous.
Third: Misty said she tried calling relatives but found it "odd" that she couldn't get a hold of them. Why is that odd? She doesn't even know who to look for in any type of search....besides last names. So, that's laid to rest. Ok, can't lay this one
to rest either. I didn't say I found it "odd". What I said was, I was on the
internet, all weekend, yesterday and today, along with calling information
trying to find her relatives. But I couldn't find them to call them. Actually,
I found her family, by looking up Gina's name and saw her families names
located there and just started looking from there.
Forth: Newspapers and news stations around where I live will not have any stories on it because it didn't happen down there. That's laid to rest...
Fifth: She sent a cop car to my home (out of concern...which was nice). According to Bill (who I just spoke with) the officer asked if I lived there...my sister Brenda was here and she and Bill said yes she does. Bill said that he asked Brenda if she was me, she said no, but that I was doing better. Bill and Brenda also said that they would call Misty and let her know what was up... Bill then called her. This is all according to him...which I believe him. So, that lays to rest the notion that I was home. Ok, this is not how this happened or what I said to Gina on the phone. This is the way it happened. I left a voice mail for Bill to call me,
so he had my number and he returned my call. He told me that Gina woke up that morning and that she would be discharged within 2-3 days, and I clarified with him that her brain still wasn't right and he agreed. But they were going to discharge her 2-3 days. I did find that "odd". Anywho, he called me at 12:07 pm Sunday. If you call the police dept. they will tell you my call into them was AFTER the call he made to me. He is telling Gina that he & Brenda called me after the police left. That is WRONG!! By hours, its wrong. When I called the police today, they had to call me back so she could look up the case. She read it to me and the cops TALKED TO GINA. And Gina told them, I'll call Misty. The cop I talked to today, I told her about the accident and the severity of the injuries and she laughingly told me, "Well, it wasn't the Gina XXXX at the residence we went to."
Sixth: Misty was upset that Bill didn't contact her directly or tell her what hospital I was in. Bill and I have an agreement that if anything happens to us only IMMEDIATE FAMILY are to be notified...directly and what he did by emailing you guys to let you know how I was was him being nice enough to do that for me....since he thought you guys were friends of mine. That's laid to rest.
Ok, I have a problem with this one. Yes, I was upset. I am supposed to be her best friend. But they can't tell me? I mean, Gina told him to call me, which he did, so he knew who he was talking to. Gina's reasoning for not having Bill tell me, is he didn't know who he was talking to. Did he forget that quick who he called?? Then I ask her why he he has laptop at the hospital. Cuz my reasoning is, if my hubby is in the hospital, my laptop is the last thing on my list. But, ok, they have the agreement, that they will notify there friends immediately. Thats what she told me. But then she says he has the laptop, becuz the only way he can think of to contact anybody is thru her e-mail. "Odd" that none of her family was on her e-mail. And its also "odd" that doesn't know any of the families phone numbers. Those are her words to me, not mine. Back to telling me, I think I was a good enough friend, to tell in confidentiality, at least the city. Which by the way, she never did. "Odd" that she has this agreement to notify all of her online friends (who mostly she has never met), and she respects us enough to have him do that, but not tell us where she's at. I'm sure we all would've respected her decision. I know that I would've. Another "odd" thing is if they have this agreement, then why isn't her family on her e-mail? Especially if Bill doesn't know the phone numbers.
Seventh: Bill had gotten several emails before posting those pictures of the car (which I just saw by the way), from people telling him they "wanted proof that I was hurt...either through pictures of ME in the hospital (how sick is that?), police reports (not gonna happen), or something to that effect. Bill was LIVID and felt that people were being pushy and nosey about all of this so he posted some pictures that he found on the net just to shut people up. These are his words... so, if your going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the people that emailed hateful emails to him just because he wouldn't tell everyone where I was at and so on. That puts the mysterious pictures to rest now. Sick sick joke. Especially how the story in the picture is so much like Gina and Bill's story. I'm sorry, but I don't care how pissed off you may get at a handful of people, you don't fuck with the ones that you "care" so much about, that while you are in a come, you have your hubby e-mail us all.
Eight: Why anyone would ASSUME the worst about me and what was being told to them because some people decided to play Nancy Drew and NOT ask me directly before slamming the hell out of me is infuriating to me! I thought many of you guys were friends...and I should NOT have to come onto my email here in the hospital and explain anything to you guys like this. A true friend would take what their friend (or their friends spouse) is telling them and if they had questions about it's validity would either try to contact that person or wait for them to get the opportunity to contact them before throwing them to the wolves. I've got 257 emails of people (who were friends before the Nancy Drews stepped up to bat) telling me to f*** off and calling me everything but white....well 427 now. Some of these people are even going as far as to call my husbands place of employment and try to get him fired or calling the police on him and shit. I'm so pissed right now I'm sick to my stomach. NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE should ever have to come onto their computer and read all these hateful crappy emails like this...and for what??? Because there's a handful of hateful bitches out there who can't stand me...and I could name names but I wont' stoop as low as them....and who want to do nothing more than to see me burn at a stake in some distant field.
Ninth: Misty asked me how I signed into MySpace....I didn't. Bill has my password and was asked to check on things for me...he said he would and that's why he did that. You told me that Bill was checking your messages for you. I don't know about you guys, but if I was as fucked up as you guys say you are, the computer would be the last thing on my mind. And if you are as damaged as you say you are, you would think that you would be on some major drugs. After talking to you today, you having all of the injuries that you do, you sure didn't "sound" in pain or on drugs.
Tenth: My mother passed away last fall. I don't care if ANY of you believe that or not...but she did. My other mom...Bill's step mom passed away a while ago...hence the 2 moms dying thing. If your going to throw shit out there make sure you got the information and accusations right first.
Eleventh: Chrissy mentioned that I would never be able to go to a Def Leppard show again....is that a threat of some sort?? Why would I not go to anymore Lep concerts? If I go and I see some of you there...you go your way, I'll go mine. And telling me to drop out of the DL community... don't worry...I will as of now. Yes, she has unsubscribed to my Pampered Chef website. So if any of you would like to add on now, you can do so. Just let me know.
People assumed that this was a prank (even before finding out from me...they just took the first negative bone thrown to them and ran with it). Let me tell you something about my husband...he may be a jerk at times (and yes, we were separated...talked divorce...but we were never divorced) but he's got WAY more important things to do with his spare time than to come onto some stupid internet groups and make up some bogus story about me. He will protect me in any way he sees fit...even if it means lying about where I am at. He will do anything for me...and ladies and gents...THAT IS A TRUE FRIEND. Then, not only that...he actually called (who I thought was) a best friend to tell her I was doing better. He told her I was resting comfortably in Lapeer Hospital because he didn't know her and he didn't know if it was ok to tell where I was at. See answer to #6, I don't feel like repeating myself. Although, I must say, that yes, I was Nancy Drew, becuz I cared. I was trying to make sure she was ok. I don't know Bill from Adam, know what I mean?? After the problems that she was having with him, God only know what could've happened. So if that makes me a bad person, or a Nancy Drew, or none of you would like to have that sort of person in your life, that sort of person who cares, then just let me know and I won't care about you anymore either.
Lets also not forget that the people that trashed me...which was pretty much everyone on here...many of you had NO REASON to do that. I'd never done one bad thing to anyone on these groups. Oh, and lets not forget about whoever it was bringing up the April Fools joke....good god...that was 3 years ago, let it go people. And it certainly wasn't something that was worth rehashing because of this. I've got people saying..."she seemed so nice but NOW"...and stuff like that....well I AM nice. I haven't done anything wrong with this whole thing. Bill tried to protect me (because he knew that there were people in these groups that didn't like me)...so he lied about where I was... and he posted car pics that weren't mine...big friggin' deal people. I asked Gina, put yourself in our shoes, see it the way we see it. And I told her how we all saw it, piece by piece and she told me that she could understand where I was coming from. Protect you? There was no reason to not tell us the city or the hospital, especially if you put yourself down as anonymous.
Now lets talk about the car accident itself... Misty (and others said that they couldn't understand how someone who is so close to death can survive)...first off lets get some facts right here. When Bill initially posted I believe it said that I was in MRI getting scans done to see how I was. The second post was about what was found. My back is not broken...I've got 2 slipped discs. I've got a bad concussion (hence the unconsciousness and swelling), I've got a broken leg (which had 2 pins put into it to stabilize the bone), I've got a fractured hand (6 bones total), broken collar bone and I've got about a 2 inch scar on my side (just under my ribs where they went in to repair a torn artery). All bad injuries, but luckily none that killed me...much to many people's dismay on here. I have headaches now...which I'll probably have for a long time...and I hurt like hell...which will always be there.
I didn't say I didn't understand how someone so close to death could survive. My exact words were, I can't understand how someone could be so close to death, broken back, fractured skull, broken legs and arms, in a coma, breathing tube and be released within 2-3 days, as that is what Bill told me. She told me that her back wasn't broken, just slipped discs, and that people go home everyday with broken arms and legs.
I WILL be released on Thursday if anyone wants to email me to find out if I'm still alive. I WILL NOT accept phone calls because to be honest...I just don't know who my friends are anymore...and also with the way you guys have acted to me... I don't want to hear from any of you unless you want to discuss this like adults. If your plans when emailing me is to bash the piss out of me...don't bother. I'll just block your email and I WILL tell you to piss off.
People have left the groups because of this (and kicked me out of others)...fine, adios to ya. I didn't kick you out of mine - why did you leave???All I can do is tell you what is going on, you will either believe me or you won't. I've had some time to think while reading through all of these emails and I've decided that I'm done with all of it. I'm leaving and closing all of my groups...simply because I don't care to see the threats and so on headed my way anymore. Not only that... with friends that don't give a shit enough to WAIT and see what I have to say instead of just jumping on the band wagon... I just don't have time for that anymore. Your not really friends apparently...so who's been duped here really...sure as hell not you guys. Many of you have never met me...yet you decide that I'm some friggin' monster...and why?? Because your playing follow the leader and jumping on the bandwagon...sorry, but that's exactly what's going on here. Even now, I'm reading all of these emails and people are saying...even NOW...I'm sorry that this was a hoax that Gina put on and so on....give me time to answer for god sakes!
Lastly...many of you hate my guts right now... so be it. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me...but, I can't change that. All I can do is tell you what happened. Here's a concept too to investigate...have any of you (who claimed to be friends and so on) asked yourselves WHY these people were doing all this Nancy Drew shit in the first place?? They're malicious people...not me....you can believe me or not. It's up to you. I don't hate you, I never said I did. I said I was hurt. I am not a malicious Nancy Drew. But if thats what I am becuz I cared and TRIED to find out if you were ok, then sobeit!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm closing my group and leaving all the other Lep groups (and no Miss smart ass~ gypsygirl1999 I won't be posting under another name...I'm fed up and done with all of it). If I learned anything from this accident...it's shown me WHO is most important in my life....my family. Apparently I can't say that about anyone else...so do what you must.
I'm done...
Gina
EDIT:
EDIT:
I totally forgot about this response to another email:
Who died and made you guys queens of the DL Community? I didn't lie Deb...and neither did Bill. And don't you dare insult him like you did on that group...Bill did NOTHING to any of you but what I ask him to do. So if your mad at anyone...be mad at me. Though...you have no reason to be as I didn't lie.
I think you guys made up your minds about me long before any of this happened anyway. You guys have this "proof"...good grief. Proof of what?? An email from a girl claiming to be best friends with me that I just met last fall and hardly spoke to?? Bill had no idea who she was...that's how good of a friend she was. So...I guess your done with Jeanne...now it's my turn.
Whatever...if they want me to leave any groups I will...no problem. But you telling me to isn't going to cut it.
Gina
A girl claiming to be your best friend? That you hardly spoke to? Geez Gina, that's not what you said in the earlier emails. Make up your frigging mind.
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