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    Thursday, July 26, 2007

    Gina's "response" and some rebuttals EDIT: SEE BOTTOM OF POST

    Below you'll find an email that Gina sent out after her fraud was exposed along with my rebuttals and those of Gina's now ex friend Misty. Mine will be first and they are numbered after her comments.



    OK...first off this email is being sent to EVERYONE that I have saved in my "friends folder"....so if your not involved in thsi or whatever...jsut ignore it.

    Hi, this is Gina...Bill is posting this for me. I opened my email for the first time today and was floored to see all the crap being dished out about me, Bill and whoever else is associated with me.


    First off, let me thank those that sent their well wishes and meant it...it was appreciated.

    Secondly: to address this letter from Misty (whom I just spoke to on the phone). It should NOT have been assumed that because Bill spoke with her that she was "in the know" about this stuff. Bill let her know what he was told to let everyone know. So, if you trashed her...apologize to her.

    1. Umm the emails specifically said that Bill was talking to "your good friend" Misty. We were very much led to believe she was "in the know" to make your lies more believable. also you state that this is the first time you'd opened your email, however in an email to another friend, the night before this, Bill stated that you'd already seen it. Which is it Gina?


    Now to address what she wrote...

    Calling the hospitals in my home town was pretty much pointless (and I'll tell you the REASONS why). First off, the accident that I had happened up north where I was visiting my brother...not down here.


    2. The original email from Bill said you had gone to the store to pick up a few things, which is it Gina? Also in the original email, bill said he was at the hospital less than an hour after your accident so it couldn't have been too far up north now could it?


    Secondly, when I or Bill go to the hospital (and I believe most hospitals do this...and if they don't...they should since it's a FEDERAL LAW), we always put on the form that we do NOT want anyone to know we are there unless they are IMMEDIATE FAMILY...meaning, if anyone who is NOT family was to call the hospital the hospital will say that they have no record of them. This IS part of the HIPPA laws that were put into action a while back...so anyone who would call who was not immediate family will NOT be informed anything about me...up to and including whether or not I'm even there. So, lets lay that part to rest shall we?

    3. Point for you I guess.




    Third: Misty said she tried calling relatives but found it "odd" that she couldn't get a hold of them. Why is that odd? She doesn't even know who to look for in any type of search....besides last names. So, that's laid to rest.

    4. She cared enough to try, so shut up.

    Forth: Newspapers and news stations around where I live will not have any stories on it because it didn't happen down there. That's laid to rest...


    5. That's not true. In a small community like yours, if someone had been seriously injured in an accident, I'm sure they would have covered it. Case in point, my husband was in a serious accident in his semi, here in the Columbus area. Our local paper, 100 miles away, carried the story even though we didn't even live there any more.



    Fifth: She sent a cop car to my home (out of concern...which was nice). According to Bill (who I just spoke with) the officer asked if I lived there...my sister Brenda was here and she and Bill said yes she does. Bill said that he asked Brenda if she was me, she said no, but that I was doing better. Bill and Brenda also said that they would call Misty and let her know what was up... Bill then called her. This is all according to him...which I believe him. So, that lays to rest the notion that I was home.


    6. In a situation like that, the police would have asked to see an ID I'm sure. Misty herself addresses this much better in her comments in the next section.

    Sixth: Misty was upset that Bill didn't contact her directly or tell her what hospital I was in. Bill and I have an agreement that if anything happens to us only IMMEDIATE FAMILY are to be notified...directly and what he did by emailing you guys to let you know how I was was him being nice enough to do that for me....since he thought you guys were friends of mine. That's laid to rest.

    7. You're lying in the ER, possibly dying and he's nice enough to email total strangers to let them know? Seems really odd to me.

    Seventh: Bill had gotten several emails before posting those pictures of the car (which I just saw by the way), from people telling him they "wanted proof that I was hurt...either through pictures of ME in the hospital (how sick is that?), police reports (not gonna happen), or something to that effect. Bill was LIVID and felt that people were being pushy and nosey about all of this so he posted some pictures that he found on the net just to shut people up. These are his words... so, if your going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the people that emailed hateful emails to him just because he wouldn't tell everyone where I was at and so on. That puts the mysterious pictures to rest now.

    8. Okay that really makes no sense. You're in the hospital but he's going to take the time to hunt pictures on the internet to appease your friends, people he doesn't even know?

    Eight: Why anyone would ASSUME the worst about me and what was being told to them because some people decided to play Nancy Drew and NOT ask me directly before slamming the hell out of me is infuriating to me! I thought many of you guys were friends...and I should NOT have to come onto my email here in the hospital and explain anything to you guys like this. A true friend would take what their friend (or their friends spouse) is telling them and if they had questions about it's validity would either try to contact that person or wait for them to get the opportunity to contact them before throwing them to the wolves. I've got 257 emails of people (who were friends before the Nancy Drews stepped up to bat) telling me to f*** off and calling me everything but white....well 427 now. Some of these people are even going as far as to call my husbands place of employment and try to get him fired or calling the police on him and shit. I'm so pissed right now I'm sick to my stomach. NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE should ever have to come onto their computer and read all these hateful crappy emails like this...and for what??? Because there's a handful of hateful bitches out there who can't stand me...and I could name names but I wont' stoop as low as them....and who want to do nothing more than to see me burn at a stake in some distant field.

    9. We assume the worst because you've given us many many reasons to.

    Ninth: Misty asked me how I signed into MySpace....I didn't. Bill has my password and was asked to check on things for me...he said he would and that's why he did that.

    10. Wow again, how thoughtful of him to check on messages from complete strangers to him, while you're hurt in the hospital.

    Tenth: My mother passed away last fall. I don't care if ANY of you believe that or not...but she did. My other mom...Bill's step mom passed away a while ago...hence the 2 moms dying thing. If your going to throw shit out there make sure you got the information and accusations right first.


    11. point number 2 for you.

    Eleventh: Chrissy mentioned that I would never be able to go to a Def Leppard show again....is that a threat of some sort?? Why would I not go to anymore Lep concerts? If I go and I see some of you there...you go your way, I'll go mine. And telling me to drop out of the DL community... don't worry...I will as of now.

    12. Not a threat. Just making the point that if you're actually stupid enough to go to another show, anyone from the online community who knows about this little stunt will make sure you're made a laughing stock. Also you say you're dropping out of the DL community but yet there you are, still posting on several groups, looking for sympathy.

    People assumed that this was a prank (even before finding out from me...they just took the first negative bone thrown to them and ran with it). Let me tell you something about my husband...he may be a jerk at times (and yes, we were separated... talked divorce...but we were never divorced) but he's got WAY more important things to do with his spare time than to come onto some stupid internet groups and make up some bogus story about me. He will protect me in any way he sees fit...even if it means lying about where I am at. He will do anything for me...and ladies and gents...THAT IS A TRUE FRIEND. Then, not only that...he actually called (who I thought was) a best friend to tell her I was doing better. He told her I was resting comfortably in Lapeer Hospital because he didn't know her and he didn't know if it was ok to tell where I was at.


    Lets also not forget that the people that trashed me...which was pretty much everyone on here...many of you had NO REASON to do that. I'd never done one bad thing to anyone on these groups. Oh, and lets not forget about whoever it was bringing up the April Fools joke....good god...that was 3 years ago, let it go people. And it certainly wasn't something that was worth rehashing because of this. I've got people saying..."she seemed so nice but NOW"...and stuff like that....well I AM nice. I haven't done anything wrong with this whole thing. Bill tried to protect me (because he knew that there were people in these groups that didn't like me)...so he lied about where I was... and he posted car pics that weren't mine...big friggin' deal people.

    13. Again, you've lied and pulled enough stunts that people are suspicious immediately. The April Fool's prank has little to do with that. It's just another point in a pattern of behavior.

    Now lets talk about the car accident itself... Misty (and others said that they couldn't understand how someone who is so close to death can survive)...first off lets get some facts right here. When Bill initially posted I believe it said that I was in MRI getting scans done to see how I was. The second post was about what was found. My back is not broken...I've got 2 slipped discs. I've got a bad concussion (hence the unconsciousness and swelling), I've got a broken leg (which had 2 pins put into it to stabilize the bone), I've got a fractured hand (6 bones total), broken collar bone and I've got about a 2 inch scar on my side (just under my ribs where they went in to repair a torn artery). All bad injuries, but luckily none that killed me...much to many people's dismay on here. I have headaches now...which I'll probably have for a long time...and I hurt like hell...which will always be there.

    14. I seriously doubt that a doctor, a professional, would have given Bill a list of injuries that wasn't confirmed, unless of course said doctor wanted to be sued.



    I WILL be released on Thursday if anyone wants to email me to find out if I'm still alive. I WILL NOT accept phone calls because to be honest...I just don't know who my friends are anymore...and also with the way you guys have acted to me... I don't want to hear from any of you unless you want to discuss this like adults. If your plans when emailing me is to bash the piss out of me...don't bother. I'll just block your email and I WILL tell you to piss off.

    People have left the groups because of this (and kicked me out of others)...fine, adios to ya. All I can do is tell you what is going on, you will either believe me or you won't. I've had some time to think while reading through all of these emails and I've decided that I'm done with all of it. I'm leaving and closing all of my groups...simply because I don't care to see the threats and so on headed my way anymore. Not only that... with friends that don't give a shit enough to WAIT and see what I have to say instead of just jumping on the band wagon... I just don't have time for that anymore. Your not really friends apparently.. .so who's been duped here really...sure as hell not you guys. Many of you have never met me...yet you decide that I'm some friggin' monster...and why?? Because your playing follow the leader and jumping on the bandwagon... sorry, but that's exactly what's going on here. Even now, I'm reading all of these emails and people are saying...even NOW...I'm sorry that this was a hoax that Gina put on and so on....give me time to answer for god sakes!

    15. I have met you and tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Didn't take me long to realize you were indeed a bullshitter.

    Lastly...many of you hate my guts right now... so be it. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me...but, I can't change that. All I can do is tell you what happened. Here's a concept too to investigate. ..have any of you (who claimed to be friends and so on) asked yourselves WHY these people were doing all this Nancy Drew shit in the first place?? They're malicious people...not me....you can believe me or not. It's up to you.

    16. We aren't malicious. We wanted the truth out there so t hat innocent people weren't scammed by you.

    I'm closing my group and leaving all the other Lep groups (and no Miss smart ass~ gypsygirl1999 I won't be posting under another name...I'm fed up and done with all of it). If I learned anything from this accident...it' s shown me WHO is most important in my life....my family. Apparently I can't say that about anyone else...so do what you must.
    I'm done...

    Gina

    17. You lie yet again. You didn't close your group, you unsubbed everyone but yourself and are slowly letting those back in who still have the wool pulled over there eyes. On one of the other groups you posted that you'd closed it and then decided to reopen it, also a lie. If you'd done that, all those old messages would have been lost and they're not. You also haven't left all the other groups because thee are at least 2 that you're still posting on, trying to sell your lies.


    Now for Misty's version:

    Ok, I have to say, I was just going to pass on this e-mail. But the more I read
    it and the more I thought about it, the more I got really pissed off. Now I realize
    none of you know me, and I am not about to get into a pissing match, but there
    are some inconsistencies. And I will put my responses after Gina's. Mine will
    be in blue bold. And yes, Gina did call me tonight. I left a voice mail on her
    cell phone and her home phone. Although, I really didn't have much hope for
    her cell phone.....seems like it would've been trashed. But oh well, what do
    I know. I'm just a malicious Nancy Drew girl.

    Gina wrote:

    OK...first off this email is being sent to EVERYONE that I have saved in my "friends folder"....so if your not involved in thsi or whatever...jsut ignore it.

    Hi, this is Gina...Bill is posting this for me. I opened my email for the first time today and was floored to see all the crap being dished out about me, Bill and whoever else is associated with me.

    First off, let me thank those that sent their well wishes and meant it...it was appreciated. You all read my e-mail and the things I did and went through
    to make sure she was ok. So even though I didn't e-mail, I was on the damn
    phone.


    Secondly: to address this letter from Misty (whom I just spoke to on the phone). It should NOT have been assumed that because Bill spoke with her that she was "in the know" about this stuff. Bill let her know what he was told to let everyone know. So, if you trashed her...apologize to her. No need to apologize to me, I could
    see how you would think that.


    Now to address what she wrote...

    Calling the hospitals in my home town was pretty much pointless (and I'll tell you the REASONS why). First off, the accident that I had happened up north where I was visiting my brother...not down here. Secondly, when I or Bill go to the hospital (and I believe most hospitals do this...and if they don't...they should since it's a FEDERAL LAW), we always put on the form that we do NOT want anyone to know we are there unless they are IMMEDIATE FAMILY...meaning, if anyone who is NOT family was to call the hospital the hospital will say that they have no record of them. This IS part of the HIPPA laws that were put into action a while back...so anyone who would call who was not immediate family will NOT be informed anything about me...up to and including whether or not I'm even there. So, lets lay that part to rest shall we? Really can't lay this one to rest. I can call any
    hospital and see if someone is there. And they will tell you, unless #1,
    you are in the psychiatric ward or the rehab for drugs and alcohol or #2
    you want to be anonymous.


    Third: Misty said she tried calling relatives but found it "odd" that she couldn't get a hold of them. Why is that odd? She doesn't even know who to look for in any type of search....besides last names. So, that's laid to rest. Ok, can't lay this one
    to rest either. I didn't say I found it "odd". What I said was, I was on the
    internet, all weekend, yesterday and today, along with calling information
    trying to find her relatives. But I couldn't find them to call them. Actually,
    I found her family, by looking up Gina's name and saw her families names
    located there and just started looking from there.


    Forth: Newspapers and news stations around where I live will not have any stories on it because it didn't happen down there. That's laid to rest...

    Fifth: She sent a cop car to my home (out of concern...which was nice). According to Bill (who I just spoke with) the officer asked if I lived there...my sister Brenda was here and she and Bill said yes she does. Bill said that he asked Brenda if she was me, she said no, but that I was doing better. Bill and Brenda also said that they would call Misty and let her know what was up... Bill then called her. This is all according to him...which I believe him. So, that lays to rest the notion that I was home. Ok, this is not how this happened or what I said to Gina on the phone. This is the way it happened. I left a voice mail for Bill to call me,
    so he had my number and he returned my call. He told me that Gina woke up that morning and that she would be discharged within 2-3 days, and I clarified with him that her brain still wasn't right and he agreed. But they were going to discharge her 2-3 days. I did find that "odd". Anywho, he called me at 12:07 pm Sunday. If you call the police dept. they will tell you my call into them was AFTER the call he made to me. He is telling Gina that he & Brenda called me after the police left. That is WRONG!! By hours, its wrong. When I called the police today, they had to call me back so she could look up the case. She read it to me and the cops TALKED TO GINA. And Gina told them, I'll call Misty. The cop I talked to today, I told her about the accident and the severity of the injuries and she laughingly told me, "Well, it wasn't the Gina XXXX at the residence we went to."


    Sixth: Misty was upset that Bill didn't contact her directly or tell her what hospital I was in. Bill and I have an agreement that if anything happens to us only IMMEDIATE FAMILY are to be notified...directly and what he did by emailing you guys to let you know how I was was him being nice enough to do that for me....since he thought you guys were friends of mine. That's laid to rest.
    Ok, I have a problem with this one. Yes, I was upset. I am supposed to be her best friend. But they can't tell me? I mean, Gina told him to call me, which he did, so he knew who he was talking to. Gina's reasoning for not having Bill tell me, is he didn't know who he was talking to. Did he forget that quick who he called?? Then I ask her why he he has laptop at the hospital. Cuz my reasoning is, if my hubby is in the hospital, my laptop is the last thing on my list. But, ok, they have the agreement, that they will notify there friends immediately. Thats what she told me. But then she says he has the laptop, becuz the only way he can think of to contact anybody is thru her e-mail. "Odd" that none of her family was on her e-mail. And its also "odd" that doesn't know any of the families phone numbers. Those are her words to me, not mine. Back to telling me, I think I was a good enough friend, to tell in confidentiality, at least the city. Which by the way, she never did. "Odd" that she has this agreement to notify all of her online friends (who mostly she has never met), and she respects us enough to have him do that, but not tell us where she's at. I'm sure we all would've respected her decision. I know that I would've. Another "odd" thing is if they have this agreement, then why isn't her family on her e-mail? Especially if Bill doesn't know the phone numbers.

    Seventh: Bill had gotten several emails before posting those pictures of the car (which I just saw by the way), from people telling him they "wanted proof that I was hurt...either through pictures of ME in the hospital (how sick is that?), police reports (not gonna happen), or something to that effect. Bill was LIVID and felt that people were being pushy and nosey about all of this so he posted some pictures that he found on the net just to shut people up. These are his words... so, if your going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the people that emailed hateful emails to him just because he wouldn't tell everyone where I was at and so on. That puts the mysterious pictures to rest now. Sick sick joke. Especially how the story in the picture is so much like Gina and Bill's story. I'm sorry, but I don't care how pissed off you may get at a handful of people, you don't fuck with the ones that you "care" so much about, that while you are in a come, you have your hubby e-mail us all.

    Eight: Why anyone would ASSUME the worst about me and what was being told to them because some people decided to play Nancy Drew and NOT ask me directly before slamming the hell out of me is infuriating to me! I thought many of you guys were friends...and I should NOT have to come onto my email here in the hospital and explain anything to you guys like this. A true friend would take what their friend (or their friends spouse) is telling them and if they had questions about it's validity would either try to contact that person or wait for them to get the opportunity to contact them before throwing them to the wolves. I've got 257 emails of people (who were friends before the Nancy Drews stepped up to bat) telling me to f*** off and calling me everything but white....well 427 now. Some of these people are even going as far as to call my husbands place of employment and try to get him fired or calling the police on him and shit. I'm so pissed right now I'm sick to my stomach. NO ONE...and I mean NO ONE should ever have to come onto their computer and read all these hateful crappy emails like this...and for what??? Because there's a handful of hateful bitches out there who can't stand me...and I could name names but I wont' stoop as low as them....and who want to do nothing more than to see me burn at a stake in some distant field.

    Ninth: Misty asked me how I signed into MySpace....I didn't. Bill has my password and was asked to check on things for me...he said he would and that's why he did that. You told me that Bill was checking your messages for you. I don't know about you guys, but if I was as fucked up as you guys say you are, the computer would be the last thing on my mind. And if you are as damaged as you say you are, you would think that you would be on some major drugs. After talking to you today, you having all of the injuries that you do, you sure didn't "sound" in pain or on drugs.

    Tenth: My mother passed away last fall. I don't care if ANY of you believe that or not...but she did. My other mom...Bill's step mom passed away a while ago...hence the 2 moms dying thing. If your going to throw shit out there make sure you got the information and accusations right first.

    Eleventh: Chrissy mentioned that I would never be able to go to a Def Leppard show again....is that a threat of some sort?? Why would I not go to anymore Lep concerts? If I go and I see some of you there...you go your way, I'll go mine. And telling me to drop out of the DL community... don't worry...I will as of now. Yes, she has unsubscribed to my Pampered Chef website. So if any of you would like to add on now, you can do so. Just let me know.

    People assumed that this was a prank (even before finding out from me...they just took the first negative bone thrown to them and ran with it). Let me tell you something about my husband...he may be a jerk at times (and yes, we were separated...talked divorce...but we were never divorced) but he's got WAY more important things to do with his spare time than to come onto some stupid internet groups and make up some bogus story about me. He will protect me in any way he sees fit...even if it means lying about where I am at. He will do anything for me...and ladies and gents...THAT IS A TRUE FRIEND. Then, not only that...he actually called (who I thought was) a best friend to tell her I was doing better. He told her I was resting comfortably in Lapeer Hospital because he didn't know her and he didn't know if it was ok to tell where I was at. See answer to #6, I don't feel like repeating myself. Although, I must say, that yes, I was Nancy Drew, becuz I cared. I was trying to make sure she was ok. I don't know Bill from Adam, know what I mean?? After the problems that she was having with him, God only know what could've happened. So if that makes me a bad person, or a Nancy Drew, or none of you would like to have that sort of person in your life, that sort of person who cares, then just let me know and I won't care about you anymore either.

    Lets also not forget that the people that trashed me...which was pretty much everyone on here...many of you had NO REASON to do that. I'd never done one bad thing to anyone on these groups. Oh, and lets not forget about whoever it was bringing up the April Fools joke....good god...that was 3 years ago, let it go people. And it certainly wasn't something that was worth rehashing because of this. I've got people saying..."she seemed so nice but NOW"...and stuff like that....well I AM nice. I haven't done anything wrong with this whole thing. Bill tried to protect me (because he knew that there were people in these groups that didn't like me)...so he lied about where I was... and he posted car pics that weren't mine...big friggin' deal people. I asked Gina, put yourself in our shoes, see it the way we see it. And I told her how we all saw it, piece by piece and she told me that she could understand where I was coming from. Protect you? There was no reason to not tell us the city or the hospital, especially if you put yourself down as anonymous.

    Now lets talk about the car accident itself... Misty (and others said that they couldn't understand how someone who is so close to death can survive)...first off lets get some facts right here. When Bill initially posted I believe it said that I was in MRI getting scans done to see how I was. The second post was about what was found. My back is not broken...I've got 2 slipped discs. I've got a bad concussion (hence the unconsciousness and swelling), I've got a broken leg (which had 2 pins put into it to stabilize the bone), I've got a fractured hand (6 bones total), broken collar bone and I've got about a 2 inch scar on my side (just under my ribs where they went in to repair a torn artery). All bad injuries, but luckily none that killed me...much to many people's dismay on here. I have headaches now...which I'll probably have for a long time...and I hurt like hell...which will always be there.
    I didn't say I didn't understand how someone so close to death could survive. My exact words were, I can't understand how someone could be so close to death, broken back, fractured skull, broken legs and arms, in a coma, breathing tube and be released within 2-3 days, as that is what Bill told me. She told me that her back wasn't broken, just slipped discs, and that people go home everyday with broken arms and legs.

    I WILL be released on Thursday if anyone wants to email me to find out if I'm still alive. I WILL NOT accept phone calls because to be honest...I just don't know who my friends are anymore...and also with the way you guys have acted to me... I don't want to hear from any of you unless you want to discuss this like adults. If your plans when emailing me is to bash the piss out of me...don't bother. I'll just block your email and I WILL tell you to piss off.

    People have left the groups because of this (and kicked me out of others)...fine, adios to ya. I didn't kick you out of mine - why did you leave???All I can do is tell you what is going on, you will either believe me or you won't. I've had some time to think while reading through all of these emails and I've decided that I'm done with all of it. I'm leaving and closing all of my groups...simply because I don't care to see the threats and so on headed my way anymore. Not only that... with friends that don't give a shit enough to WAIT and see what I have to say instead of just jumping on the band wagon... I just don't have time for that anymore. Your not really friends apparently...so who's been duped here really...sure as hell not you guys. Many of you have never met me...yet you decide that I'm some friggin' monster...and why?? Because your playing follow the leader and jumping on the bandwagon...sorry, but that's exactly what's going on here. Even now, I'm reading all of these emails and people are saying...even NOW...I'm sorry that this was a hoax that Gina put on and so on....give me time to answer for god sakes!

    Lastly...many of you hate my guts right now... so be it. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me...but, I can't change that. All I can do is tell you what happened. Here's a concept too to investigate...have any of you (who claimed to be friends and so on) asked yourselves WHY these people were doing all this Nancy Drew shit in the first place?? They're malicious people...not me....you can believe me or not. It's up to you. I don't hate you, I never said I did. I said I was hurt. I am not a malicious Nancy Drew. But if thats what I am becuz I cared and TRIED to find out if you were ok, then sobeit!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm closing my group and leaving all the other Lep groups (and no Miss smart ass~ gypsygirl1999 I won't be posting under another name...I'm fed up and done with all of it). If I learned anything from this accident...it's shown me WHO is most important in my life....my family. Apparently I can't say that about anyone else...so do what you must.
    I'm done...

    Gina


    EDIT:

    EDIT:

    I totally forgot about this response to another email:

    Who died and made you guys queens of the DL Community? I didn't lie Deb...and neither did Bill. And don't you dare insult him like you did on that group...Bill did NOTHING to any of you but what I ask him to do. So if your mad at anyone...be mad at me. Though...you have no reason to be as I didn't lie.

    I think you guys made up your minds about me long before any of this happened anyway. You guys have this "proof"...good grief. Proof of what?? An email from a girl claiming to be best friends with me that I just met last fall and hardly spoke to?? Bill had no idea who she was...that's how good of a friend she was. So...I guess your done with Jeanne...now it's my turn.

    Whatever...if they want me to leave any groups I will...no problem. But you telling me to isn't going to cut it.
    Gina

    A girl claiming to be your best friend? That you hardly spoke to? Geez Gina, that's not what you said in the earlier emails. Make up your frigging mind.
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    Wednesday, July 25, 2007

    Very special thank yous

    Very special thank you's need to go out to a whole bunch of people, the ones really responsible for yesterday's post. Chrissy, Debs, Lors, Kim, Knight, Liz, Tracey and Lynn, all of you did all the hard work, I simply wrote it out. Misty, thank you for coming forward with what you knew and allowing me to add it to what we already had.

    Connie, thanks so much for the support.

    Finally, thank you to Lou and Sheila. It's truly an honor to call the two of you my friends.
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    Tuesday, July 24, 2007

    Gina's fraud

    This all started last Saturday with this email to several people:

    "Subject: Gina
    Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:58:27 -0400

    Hello this is Bill XXXX, Gina's husband. I am sitting here in the emergency room right now using my laptop to send you this message. I know Gina has a lot of friends on the internet so I've gone into her "Favorites" link to try and contact some of you. So if you know her please pass this along to those that you know are her friends. I'm only sending this to the group that I know she has and the friends listed in her friends section of her email.

    Gina was in a very bad car accident about an hour ago. She went to the store to get some things and the next thing I knew I was getting a call from the ER nurse. She was, from what the police are telling me thus far, hit head-on by a teenager who crossed the center line.

    At this time she is down in MRI/CT getting a scan of her head and chest. She is unconscious and non-responsive and is on a machine to help her breath. If you would like I will try to keep you all posted on how she is doing, but at this time and with the minimal information that I have she is in very critical condition. Please pray for her and our family at this time of need.
    Thank you,
    Bill XXXX"


    Immediately several of us were suspicious for several reasons. One, who would think to take a laptop to the ER with them? Two, wouldn't it have been the police making the notification, not an ER nurse?
    Three, several of us checked the IP number and it was Gina's home IP.

    Then came this:
    "Hello this is Bill XXXX again, Gina's husband. I can let you guys know as much as I know about how Gina is doing, she's still going through tests. First of all let me start by saying thank you for all the support you've shown for her and I in this difficult time.

    As you know Gina was hit head-on in a car accident this morning. The teenager who hit her was not hurt but his occupant did suffer a broken neck and collar bone. As for Gina, the last I posted she was getting a MRI/CT scan done and this is what we've found out so far.

    Gina has a compound fracture of her right leg (meaning the bone has snapped completely in half and is protruding through the skin). She has a pretty long list of injuries and is being prepped for exploratory surgery now. I will tell you what we know as of right now.

    Gina's injuries:

    1. Her left hand is broken in 6 places, as is her wrist and
    both bones in her left forearm.

    2. Her collar bone is broken on both sides as is her left
    shoulder blade (which was pretty much shattered, so it
    is at this time, looking like she will require surgery on
    that).

    3. Her right leg is broken as I said as is her right knee cap.

    4. She has a fractured spine in 3 places and due to this is
    in a stationary harness bed to keep her from moving.

    5. She has some internal injuries and is bleeding internally because of this. They are taking her down to OR to find out where she is bleeding from. They do believe that the bleeding may be coming from her spleen, so maybe they won't have to do too much in the way or surgery on her to stop it.

    6. The MRI/CT scan isn't good however, she's got a fractured skull on the left side near her temporal lobe. This has caused her brain to swell and due to this they are having a hard time keeping her from having seizures.

    Gina is still unresponsive and her reflexes are slow to respond. Her eyes are open but she just stares off into space. She is in a coma and is as I said before, in very critical condition. They have to stabilize her (which they have not been able to do yet) in order to transport her to a better, more advanced facility. The doctor, nurse and social worker informed us that Gina had to have CPR performed on her at the scene and upon entry into the ER because her blood pressure bottomed out and they lost a heart beat on her. She has pulled through that but is still not doing well at all.

    That's all I have for now. Please forgive me if I do not let you know anything for a little while, this is hard for I, her parents and siblings to deal with right now and my mind is pretty much mush right now.
    Thank you again for your kind words and prayers.
    Bill XXXX"

    There were a couple more updates over the next couple of days. We were still highly suspicious as there was nothing in Gina's local papers about a head on collision. One of us even went so far as to write a couple of emails. I will post those later if I get permission. Monday the replies to those emails came in. First an internet expert confirmed that the first email (supposedly sent form the hospital) was sent form Gina's home as her internet provider does not offer mobile internet service. The second email was from Gina's city's police chief letting us know that no one with her name had been involved in an accident over the weekend.

    Then there was this email:

    "Well the doctor is saying probably Friday. And yes, she was pretty bad in the ICU, but I know (as I work in the hospital too) it's a precaution that they put someone in there for any head injury (at least they do at the facility I work at). And, due to the fact she was not waking up, that was the main reason the doctor initially felt it was best to put her in there. Once she started coming around she was moved to the step down (or Telemetry) unit.

    Again, thank you for all your support the last few days. Gina, her family and I don't know how to thank you all."

    Uh released Friday? With all those injuries?

    Yesterday evening Bill, or rather Gina posing as Bill took things one step further and that's where she screwed up. She posted these photos on her group:




    Thanks to another Lep fan who quickly found this:

    I'm normally a pretty trusting person and when I heard about this accident...I had no reason to doubt it's truthfulness. I've been studying for a very hard and mentally taxing exam for the past couple weeks so I am thinking that is why I didn't "catch" the inconsistencies before. When I did see those pictures, I thought that for her extensive injuries that the car didn't look that bad. I totalled my car a couple years ago and it had about the same amount of damage and I walked away. Like I said, I was preppin for my exam so my mind wasn't looking for bullshit. Today I come home from my exam to find all these emails in my inbox about whether this accident was legit or not. Re-reading all the emails and looking at the pics..I decided to look a little deeper. It didn't make sense. I guess I should also note here that I used to be a private investigator before I got into the medical field. It comes in handy at times. I don't even think I needed my background to put an end to this story. Google is your friend people.

    Look at the pics in this link and compare them to the photos that "Bill" posted here. If the pics of "Gina's car" disappear,email me. I took a print screen of them on this site. This way no one can say that I am pulling them out of my ass.
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    Link #1
    http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/accident_story/9-7-04-bad-car-crash-2.html">
    link #2
    http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/accident_story/9-7-04.html

    and the attached story of said photos:

    It was April 29, 2004 around 2:30 in the afternoon and I was driving back from work in Canton, Michigan. Approximately 10 minutes into my drive I was struck head-on, and without warning, by a car going 40-plus MPH heading in the opposite direction. The car was driven by a 17-year-old kid who *obviously* was not mature nor focussed enough to be behind the wheel of a car. The impact sent my car (a 1997 Plymouth Breeze) sailing into oncoming traffic.

    As you can see in the pictures, my car was totaled. I was struck with such force that the engine block was pushed UNDER the firewall. When the paramedics arrived it took about four of them to pull my mangled body from the wreckage. I had suffered a BADLY broken right femur (thighbone) in which the bone almost protruded through my skin, a fractured left tibia (shinbone), torn knee ligaments, a badly sprained right ankle and internal bleeding, among other things.

    I was conscious for the entire thing and had no feeling from the waist down. It was the single most terrifying day of my life. I thought I was going to die, or at least never walk again. I spent a week in the hospital and underwent emergency surgery. I have more surgery to come on my left leg in the near future. Thanks to the fabulous orthopedic surgeon that was on call that fateful day, my legs were saved. The kid that hit me walked away uninjured. The moral of the story is: live life one day at a time because you never know when something can happen and turn things upside-down. Before my accident I was a very active, athletic 20-year-old. I now have a new appreciation for life, because I realize how fast it can come to an end.

    Be safe and be cautious,
    Janice

    So the pictures were from an entirely different accident that occurred in 2004.

    Today this was posted on Gina's group by one of her closest friends:

    "First off, you will notice that Gina was the first one that I have sent this to.

    Second, I have to say when I got the news about the accident, I was in
    tears. I consider Gina one of my good friends and someone that I can turn
    to. She was there for me when I was going thru all of my medical stuff.

    But, having said that, I want all of you to know that I knew nothing other
    than what you did. Some of the e-mails made reference to Bill talking to
    me about Gina's condition. Which we did talk. Making everyone think
    that everything that was being said and e-mailed was true.

    When I first got the e-mail, alot of the things didn't ring true. But my friend
    wouldn't lie to me, right??? Then I got to thinking, her and Bill haven't been
    getting along, maybe he did something to her. Let me tell you people, I
    had all of the same thoughts that you have had. I saw all of the discrepencies.
    But again, he must've done something to her. Which explains why not alot
    of what was e-mailed sounded true.

    I e-mailed her neighbor across the street, I called the hospitals for days
    (I'm sure they got sick of me). I tried to call Gina's relatives. I called
    the newstation, the newspaper, the cops, 911. I even sent the cops over there.
    They were supposed to call me back, which they didn't. Which had me
    convinced that Bill did something to her and they were investigating that.
    Thats why they didn't call me back, right?? Let me tell you, I could've been a
    detective with all of the people and what I was looking into.

    But, I just made a phone call to the Lapeer County police station, and
    asked them what they found out when they went out to Gina's on Sunday.
    I didn't want to hang Bill till I found out for sure. The policewoman had to call
    me back, as she had to look up the case number. Know what she told
    me?? That the policeman who went out there talked directly to Gina
    and Gina told him, no need to call Misty, I'll call her.

    Let me tell you people, I AM LIVID!!! I AM PISSED!!!!!!! Gina, what
    were you thinking? Why would you do this to so many people who
    cared about you?? I have people e-mailing me becuz we are best
    friends, and because Bill (or should I say you), put it in the e-mails
    that we talked directly, implicating me. Thinking I knew more than I
    did. SHAME ON YOU GINA!!

    I personally don't want to hear another word about Gina. You took my
    feelings and my heart and stomped the shit out of it!! You are not a
    nice person Gina. I hope that whatever reason you did this, that it was
    worth it and I hope that you get help.

    So there you all have it. I can't explain why Gina did this, only she can.
    But I can tell you that it is not true and we can lay this to rest and NOT
    talk about it again."
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    Monday, July 23, 2007

    Make no mistake

    Time is running out and we do have the proof and we will use it.
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    Sunday, July 22, 2007

    We know you're here.................

    and we know the truth. We'll give you until noon Tuesday to come clean, with the whole truth or we'll go public with proof.
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    Monday, July 16, 2007

    Bear update

    We took Bear to the vet today and he's going to be fine. It's not his hips after all, it's a compressed disk, just like Mitzi. Two weeks of steroids and pain meds and then muscle relaxers for the rest of his life.
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    Sunday, July 15, 2007

    Back to real life

    Now that our Lep trekking is over, it's back to real life. Thursday and Friday I shaved our 2 long haired dogs (a real chop job!). I did Bear on Thursday and on Friday morning he came down the stairs yelping. He's been having some problems with his hips for about a year but this is the worst it's been. Last night he couldn't even get up the stairs to go to bed. I'm giving him baby aspirin occasionally but it doesn't seem to be helping this time I guess a visit to the vet is in our near future.

    I hate having such a geriatric population of animals. Mitzi is 14 and has a compressed disk in her back. She's actually been doing very well though and hasn't had a spell with in in over a year. To actually see her you'd never know she's that old since she still bounces around like a puppy. Ruby is 12 and our sickest. She has Cushing's disease, a severe heart murmur and now has several tumors.

    Bear and Jasper are 10 and littermates. Both of them have been relatively healthy until this problem with Bear's hips. Shadow is our youngest dog at 6 but since he's a large dog, his life span is shorter and he's considered geriatric already.

    Then there are the cats. Smoke is 13, Splash and Killer are 11, and Puff is 4. Thank goodness no major health problems with any of them yet. Smoke had a bout with an ear infection a couple of months ago that was very dramatic but not too serious. We had thought that he was having seizures but as it turns out they were actually dizzy spells from the ear infections.

    It's really depressing seeing them age this way. I've had most of them either from a very young age (Ruby was 4 weeks old and Puff was 3 weeks old) or from birth (Bear and Jasper are Ruby's puppies)and it's so hard to see them get old and fragile when it seems like yesterday they were chewing my shoes, or shredding my curtains.
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    Friday, July 13, 2007

    My C-bus pics

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    Tuesday, July 10, 2007

    C-bus!!

    So sorry it took me so long to post this, I've spent the last couple of days in a fog. I can't remember ever being so tired after a Lep show. I guess my age is showing!

    Our day started around 10, when Chrissy picked me up to go scout out hotels and such. We didn't see anything and finally Chrissy got a message from Cindy that they'd seen one of the buses heading toward the venue. We headed that way and met up with her, Lou and Sheila. I have to pause here to say that DAYUM! Sheila is looking very hot these days. If I was into girls.....................

    Apparently the bus that they'd seen was a crew bus because at noon on the dot, the band busses pulled in. Both drivers waved at us and George had his thumbs in his ears, waving his hands at us and was making faces. We also got to talk to one of the truck drivers that Cindy knew.

    We hung around for a bit longer but since we couldn't see the buses to watch the comings and goings like we did in Cincy, we decided to head back to the hotel that the others were staying at for a while. We hung out there for a while and then Chrissy and Lou went to Arby's and got us some grub. We left just before 3 to head back to the venue. This is where is starts getting funny/interesting. As soon as we got in the car, I realized I had to pee. Well I wasn'[t going to ask the other girls to take me clear back up to the room so i figured I'd just hold it.

    We sat in Germain's parking lot, in the heat, for another two and a half hours give or take. By the time we got out to get in line, I was dying. Inside one of the side gates were porta potties so Cindy told me I should go over and ask them if I could just run in to use one and come back out. Now I know this is hard to believe, but I am pretty shy. I absolutely did not want to ask but I didn't have a choice really.

    Security at the gate would have none of it but they did suggest i go over to the radio station van to see about getting an early entry wrist band. We did, and lo and behold there was Archie!!!!! He does sports now but in 2002 he was the evening DJ and I used to call him allllllll the time begging him to play some Lep. He said he'd gladly give us wrist bands if we'd hang around for a minute until the next break so he could interview me. OMG! I'm about to whiz right down my leg and he wants to do an interview? Thankfully he kept it short and sweet and after I made a complete goof of myself, and he told the whole listening area that I had to "tinkle", we were off to the gate once agian. So we got in (even before the ILAA people) I took a looooooooooooooong whiz, got something to drink and waited for them to open the gates to the seats.

    We took a seat in one of the only shady areas a moment later, in walked Mike thorugh the back gate, by the buses. Contrary to what Chrissy posted, we did not "call out" to him. I screamed "MIKE!" at the top of my lungs! Poor guy, I don't know how he puts up with us! Anyway we chatted for a bit and then the three of us walked into the seating area.

    We thought our tickets were 6th row, but they ended up being 5th row, woo hoo, and now I'll cut to the chase. Styx put on an awesome show again, and this time Chrissy got a pic, from JY I think. I had been looking forward to REO since their Hi Infidelity was the first rock album I ever bought. After 2 songs we went out to the consession stands. It was painful to see Kevin Cronin pointedly avoid the high notes. He wasn't off-key or anything, he just sang lower notes instead of the high ones, if that makes any sense. We ended up getting some grub and talking to some friends of Chrissy's and then back to our seats for Lep.

    They opened with Rocket again (same set list they've been doing). Our seats ended up being absofrigginglutely awesome, since the third row was almost empty and the short couple in front of us kept coming and going, and finally left altogether about halfway through Lep's set. I got Phil's attention about 3 songs in and he waved and said HI! He'd already removed his shirt and I gesture wildly, pointing to my head, trying to ask him where his hat was that he'd worn in Cincy. You know, the one I told him I didn't like? His response was "Do you like it?" Ummmmmm yeah sweetie, the slightly new haircut is great but...................I'll try again later!

    We were much closer to the catwalk this time so when they came out for BOTHB I did try again and this time he got it! I think Chrissy was also making the wild gestures by this time! So, he gestured that the hat was backstage and then pointed to his pants (he had black ones on, instead of the camo ones that matched the hat) I'm assuming to let us know why he wasn't wearing it. Then he mouthed "you didn't like it anyway!" Ha! he remembered.

    Mike was toward the end of the catwalk by now, getting some pictures for the website, so I ran up to him and got his picture! Even with his pass, security tried to rum him off! Idiots!

    I haven't gotten my pics developed yet but Chrissy apparently was having lots of luck getting the band's attention. She's got awesome shots of Sav, Joe and Phil looking right at her camera! I'm having trouble getting my kid out of bed to run me to Walgreen's to drop off my film but hopefully I'll have 'em tomorrow.

    Back to the show.....I was really wound up and sadly when that happens you just never know what I'm going to do. During "Armegeddon It" I uh....cut loose. I caught Phil's eye, he smiled and I stuck my tongue out and wiggled it. He laughed and mouthed "You are bad!" A moment later He looked my way again and this time I stuck my tongue out between two fingers. This time I got an "Oh my god!" from him and he was laughing so hard i was afraid he was going to fall off the stage! All too soon the show was over.

    Mike came out as soon as the lights went up and got some pics of me, Chrissy, Jen and Eve in front of the stage. Security was busily shooing everyone out so he said he'd meet us in the parking lot in a bit. He did and we got more pics that also included Lori, Sheila, Cindy, Val and Sandy. He chatted with us for quite a while but we finally let him go as we knew he had a long drive home.

    We stuck around, waiting for the buses to leave and met a few more die-hards. As the buses left we followed them out of the parking lot and all the way to the east/west split and then headed home, tired but happy.
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    Sunday, July 08, 2007

    Shhhh, be verwy vewy quiet........

    We're hunting Weppards!

    Be back tonight or early tomorrow!
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    Saturday, July 07, 2007

    Found this

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    Quote of the day.....

    This was on my google page and I thought it was amusing.

    All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy and Jill a rich widow.
    - Evan Esar
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    Sunday, July 01, 2007

    Uh oh!

    Scott asked David when he gets to meet Danny. This should be interesting. Scott loves David but he's having a hard time dealing with his homosexuality. Keep your fingers crossed.
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